Thats a LOL. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. 1,254 max in one manual . That all depends on the powder youre burning. Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles. Unless Marlin has COMPLETELY reformed their QC system, I would never spend $600 on one of their levers. It is such a joy to shoot! The .35 Remington case is basically a .308 Winchester (but slightly narrower and shorter) with a .358" diameter bullet stuffed into it. Goes to show I learn something new every day. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. Mark Penrod is one. .30-30 is just a little unpleasant in it due to the light weight and stock. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. .357 caliber bullets (from left to right) 158 gr XTP, 180 gr XTP, 200 gr FTX, New 357 Rem Max casing. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 pm, Post This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! I now have the Ruger gp100-7. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. Auction (145) by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post It carries easy, at 6- lbs, with swivel studs coming standard (as does a hammer block safety) and has a large loop for fast cycling. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. by 44shooter Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:34 pm, Post Thompson Center Contender Stainless Steel MGM 357 Maximum 12 Barrel (1:14). Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length 20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! Its cheaper than a lot of other calibers to shoot with minimal felt recoil. If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. With straight-walled cartridges, you dont need a dedicated space. Expect this one to make a comeback, like the 10mm. Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! The Story of my life it seems. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. Another Marlin not to miss is the Model 1894 CST, which features a black pistol grip stock and stainless finish. This is my wifes go-to rifle for defense. Turned out to be a skunk right underneath my stand. Go to GB or GI and find yourself a Browning B-92 in .357. Thanks for your replies. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And if you do it right, .38 Special or .357 Mag is an incredibly cheap round to reload, with brass that lasts forever and makes a fine alternative to .22LR when plinking ammo is hard to find. But stoke it up and hear that little dog bark like a big dog! Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. The Carbine model features a 10-round tube and a 20-inch barrel. Most of all it looks cool and reminds me of the good old days when guns were all made from steel and wood instead of plastic. This is a high-class place so act respectable. Now its the way it should have been from the factory. Depending on how hot the load is. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) 11 February 2004, 13:28 dgr416 The New Henry Big Boy X models are looking like may be the best value in a New Lever action rifle. Or the new Marlin Dark series for a little more money. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. But it didnt came from the Marlin factory that way, and it took a custom lever gunsmith a lot of work and a lot of replacement parts to get it there. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. Most 158-grain and lighter bullets usually lack the jacket thickness for use on big game in a Contender. 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. I really cant eithersure was glad I had 8 30 round mags full of 62 gr 556 as BLM looters were approaching in May. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. JM all day but damn are they pricey if you can find them at all. The most common include: Ruger Blackhawk Dan Wesson Model 40 The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. Max., Those who own firearms in this chambering load their own custom ammunition. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. What would be the right bullet? The werent lever actions. Winchester 1892 Deluxe 357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifle with 24 Inch Octagon Barrel. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. Really puts a pop in the round. Rimmed cases don't play well with stacked magazines like in the 700 Remington. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. Also have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90, I shoot 45-70 loads in it and had no issues. No joke. Most of all it shoots the same ammo as a number of revolvers I have and reload for. While I do want one in .357 for ammo sharing with my handguns Id be open to one in .327 Federal as well. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. and especially their 180 gr. They show up now and again and they are a really fine rifle. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 357 max has one of the best resale records out there. Why does a levergun in .357 Magnum make more sense than one in .30-30 in those states? It would not feed 38 Specials so I reinstalled the original parts and shoot the Maximums by loading them one at a time. Ive shot the .30-30, and its fine, but man, Id love that thing in .357. Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). For instance, My 45-90, when I reload the 45/90 case, I only load to mid range 45/70 specs and use toilet paper to make up the case space. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. lets say it was well used and not maintained. I would add Chiappa Alaskan in .357 Magnum to the mix. 357/38 is the one of the easiest. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. The 1873 was one of the most popular lever action rifles of all time. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. No Tags. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. But the tyrants have publicly said they hate repeating firearms. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. The 1892 is a top-ejecting model so scopes or rails are out, but the point of this gun is to be a fast-handling, medium-range rifle. Please contact us with any questions, or for purchase options. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. Check out ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html and ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html. Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. Most reloading die manufacturers can supply this accessory for your current dies set. Its an entry-level model MSRP is $972, youll pay about $200 less retail but the rifle comes tapped for a scope or rail if so desired. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. The Henry Single Shot is one VERY nice little rifle! The Model X in .357 magnum is super compact with an overall length of just 36.3 inches. Of the 32 models of 357 lever gun they offer, there are precisely zero units currently available for sale. 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . Buy Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA: GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973628258. . Here is a link to an article that may answer some questions. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. It can be used against medium to large game, with hunters disagreeing over its efficacy for dangerous game such as bear. Apples should be in pie. 1830 fps 100 yds 1427 fps 200 yds 1138 fps 158 gr. 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The.357 Maximum, formally known as the.357 Remington Maximum or the.357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat.357 SuperMag. Email Mike at mike@357maximum.net or call 541 956 6938. I think its partly because leverguns are unusual in a sea of sameness, and also because theyve still got a bit of that badass Old West cachet. Give a Gift Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. Count yourself lucky They are getting to very hard to find! A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. Loads published in the major reloading manuals are pitifully understated, going to only go to about 40,000 psi. Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. .38 Spl is an absolute dream to shoot in a .357 lever gun. It's my personal opinion that the flame cutting on the revolvers chambered in this cartridge gave it a bad rep. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a I shoot 38 short. Max. It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. The least amount of trouble would be to buy a 35 Remmington and be done with it. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. You might find a few boxes at the Tulsa world gun show. Max chambering. SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. Most of our deer were harvested at 30-45 yards. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post A lever gun would be a really fun toy for me. The old tooling is long gone now. Id tend to agree with you. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. Perfect. There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. A real plain looking carbine, but the thing shoots like a dream. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). The rifle should be able to shoot all the standard lead .357 bullets, including the 148 gr wadcutters. Look around on the internet. The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. Fully agree with this. Relevant to what? No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. Take a lever action over an AR every day. Through the years, the company continued to expand and . Have you actually tried looking for a .38/.357 lever gun? Last time I went hunting. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. The company would sell you all you wanted for ten bucks apiece, but a gun that tried to cut itself in half was doomed to failure. BTW, next to .357 Mag in the combo, my next favorite choice would be the set in .44 Mag. $2.92. The availability of molds ranging from 180 to 250 grains in both gascheck and plain-base bullets, reasonable recoil, rimmed for headspace, larger bullet to touch the next ring, there are advantages. My Marlin feeds .38 Special just fine but has a tendency to hang up on .357 Mag rounds (no matter the bullet type, it seems to be an OAL issue.). And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. bullets that allow for velocities Ruger never intended. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. Im a wee bit envious. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. of AA-1680 give top velocities and energies for shots upwards of 250 yards or more with 180 gr bullets from 24 barrels. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Caveat Emptor. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. Additionally, .357 Magnum lever action rifles can accept optics as most are pre-tapped for scopes and can easily be fit for a tactical rail. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. I do like the other pistols but somehow I always end up back at one of those two. Backorder OK. Slip Top 50 Smoke Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:25 pm, Post Curious that this article features only the most expensive versions of .357 carbines. There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. You can also put ketchup on a hot dog, but you shouldnt. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! Tho i reload all my center fire calibers. marcJ (author) from Mid-MO on July 21, 2015: After becoming accustomed to the cartridge and it's range of uses, I too couldn't believe it never caught on commercially. It worked well in T/C barrels with bullets over 158 grains, and as near-max loads are usually compressed, it eliminated propellant position issues. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:17 pm, Post The only guy I knew who shot 357 Max had a Ruger SBH and a Marlin lever gun re-chambered for the Max cartridge. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. The round barrel is just 17.4 inches, threaded for a suppressor and features a 1:16 rate of twist. The chronograph results show it is identical to the 35 Remington. Brand: Winchester Firearms. 05-25-2020 . @ Ed Palumbo. Best of both worlds. Send your barrel or barrel with forend attached for chamber work. It really boils down to max distance, drop, and how much the bullets . In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Show Only with Pictures My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. Seems like whenever Ive had the funds, none have been available, and when Im broke, there everywhere. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. In fact, a lever action carbine and a revolver in matching caliber is every bit as useful today as it was for the settlers on the Western Frontier. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. Rechamber to .357 Maximum or rethroat .357 Magnum factory chamber: Send the TC, CVA, ORHenry BARREL ONLY, and $125 check or money order, total including UPS shipping. Finding component will likely be tough though. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. The option for a MAG chamber lets you load published .357 MAXimum loads in the MAGnum case: Henry wisely chose the old, original closed breech barrel chamber with a very short forcing cone, as opposed to the current overly long forcing cone chamber that is essentially the same as a "shot out" barrel used by nearly all other manfacturers. I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. 008-E503829 | MTM. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. The.357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Among their improvements was a revision to the receiver for their model of 1894. Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. . Being a straight walled cartridge, its a snap. SAAMI maximum is 48,000, and in the closed breech guns pressures can be run at the same levels as 5.56 NATO, about 54,000 psi. The .357 Rem. I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. $800 was a great price.. Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. Remington and Ruger eventually . I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading.
